Listen to our podcast

Tune in to From The Ground Up, where I share the unfolding story of life with my young pony, Apollo (Bob). Through honest reflections, quiet moments, and insights from science and nature, we explore what becomes possible when we stop trying to control and start paying attention. Together, we're building a partnership from the ground up—one rooted in curiosity, stewardship, and understanding.

Our journey "From the ground up"

Join me and my young pony, Apollo ("Bob"), as we explore what happens when we choose curiosity over control. Each episode is a reflection from the field—sharing our conversations, the lessons we're learning together, and the research that helps make sense of it all. As we build our partnership from the ground up, before I even think about returning to the saddle, we're discovering what it means to move in rhythm with nature, to listen more deeply, and to become better stewards for the horses in our care.

Who should listen?

For horse owners who believe there's more to horsemanship than training. From The Ground Up is a journal in conversation—sharing stories from life with my young pony, Apollo, alongside reflections, research and the lessons we're learning together. Exploring curiosity, stewardship and partnership, this is an invitation to slow down, pay attention, and discover what becomes possible when we stop trying to control and start listening.

What makes us unique?

Most horse podcasts teach you how to do more with your horse. This one asks what might happen if we did less. By slowing down, paying closer attention, and drawing inspiration from behavioural science, nature connection and the changing seasons, From The Ground Up explores a different way of being with horses—one rooted in curiosity, stewardship and relationship before performance.

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